It is possible that Schiller meant both an ideal man and an ideal human (both as something like the last guideline of each humans will) in each human. Accordance of both reason/morality and freedom is the task/purpose.
Amazing androids: **.
Machines like that androids (**) can use the language, but they do not know much about it.
Emotions can be shown by machines like those androids (**), but they do not know its meaning well enough.
933) Arminius, 14.10.2016, 02:41, 16:02, 16:21, 16:36, 17:59, 18:40, 18:49, 19:01, 19:29, 20:01, 22:15 (5400-5410)
I remind you of this:
A p-zombie (**)?
Science has created many gods. Some are already dead, some are still alive. The number of gods has increased (thus: not decreased!).
Which scientific god do you prefer?
Or do you think that all these gods are no real gods or true gods but merely false gods?
Maybe some of the said relevant events will happen at about the same time, so that the most people will not notice each event.
That reminds me of the following two responds I posted in your other thread:
Objects must be objectified, and that can only be done by a subject.
According to that one must say that subjects (or a subject or the subject) came before objects (or an object or the object).
I think the problem of the subject/object-dualism is - at last - not solvable.
Maybe there will happen some relevant events (for example the collapse of the Keynesianistic/Neo-Keynesianistic system [fiat money system], a disaster as a consequence of the global war, a natural disaster, the take-over of the androids) at almost the same time.
And, perhaps, at last the whole planet ....
History is not dead. At least: Not yet.
If they merely did that one thing (defining God), then they would not remain so dependent from money as they are. Defining God requires less money than a Very Large Telescope or a Large Hadron Collider.
For example the collapse of the Keynesianistic/Neo-Keynesianistic system [fiat money system], a disaster as a consequence of the global war, a natural disaster, the take-over of the machines.
934) Arminius, 16.10.2016, 01:06, 01:10, 01:12, 01:26, 14:54, 14:57, 15:29, 15:48, 16:01, 16:32, 16:37 (5411-5421)
We did not kill all gods, it is the other way around: more gods have been invented since our one God was murdered by us (in the last 18th century). Scientific gods, economic gods, political gods, pop gods and many other gods are the most and the youngest gods (false gods).
It seems that some people are talking as if nothing would be everything - so as if black would be white, right (correct) would be left (wrong, false), war would be peace, ... and so on.
A common enemy unites the people.
Do you mean the combination of US Dollar and US Military? The buy-or-die system?
Why are they now so (seemingly) sure to win? It is because of the current weakness (caused by some media headlines) of Trump. Isn't it?
James S. Saint wrote:
Yes, and this statement would also be right, if a well known scientist went to the far side of the Moon and said I have evidence for the fact that there is no dust there. Science has to do with two sides of its coin: theory (logic, language) and empirism (scientific practice, experience) - both connected with deduction and induction. In that said example they would have to go on with visiting the far side of the Moon and perhaps change some physical and chemical theories or fire the said well known scientist.
Oh, yes, it makes much sense to ban drugs, especially to the drug bosses, drug dealers, and the whole mafia system.
That diagram (**) shows which empire has been existing since Bretton Woods: the US Dollar Empire.
Even the other strong currencies like Deutsche Mark (DM), what is now called Euro (and does not really work), or Yen support the US Dollar Empire.
Would you, please, name the source of that diagram?
At the end of 1990 it was like this:
»You'd have to dethrone the US dollar first.« **
Everybody around the world is sick to death of American imperialism and global hegemony.
I'm surprised it took the world this long to start getting cocky. Duerte has mentioned that Obama should go fuck himself repeatedly in public. Any man that says that publicly has my respect. **
»You'd have to dethrone the US dollar first. **
»You'd have to dethrone the US dollar first. Gadaffi tried that and was taken out. And Lybia is still in the middle of civil war. How can you prevent a civil war? As I can see, only in a dictatorship could you do it before. Now, a dictator is an oppressor of human rights and has to be deposed, and that leaves any country vulnerable to destabilization and breaking up. And the free flow of dollar across the globe facilitates that. I wouldn't be surprised if Philippines plunged into a civil war of its own. **
If you bothered paying attention to the world markets you would understand that the dollar is currently in the process of being dethroned. Indeed within time the world will see that the king emperor has no clothes. **
935) Arminius, 18.10.2016, 04:39, 04:49, 14:49, 15:08, 15:13, 15:31, 16:06, 16:14, 18:44, 22:19, 23:01 (5422-5432)
Do you (**) really want to give up smoking or not?
The system of US Dollar and US Military has not much to do with democracy.
Ah, your pubescent self description again. Thanks.
Thank you (**).
The Remnimbi (Yuan) was pegged to the US Dollar some years ago.
In 2015 the IMF declared the Remnimbi (Yuan) as the fifth reserve currency after US Dollar, Euro (Deutsche Mark), Yen, Pound Sterling.
What did they do when they wanted to come into war? Think, for example, of the USS Maine (1898), the RMS Lusitania (1915), Pearl Harbour (1941), Tongking (1964) ... and so on. .... Psst .... Top secret.
There are three possibilities: (1) she does not know what she is talking about, (2) she is one of the most dangerous human beings, (3) both (1 and 2).
In fact: That no-fly zone (**) means a war with Syria and Russia!
You (**) are a hopeless case. Q.E.D.
Try to speak to another ILP member, I am not interested in your lies, fakes, trolling acts ....
Try to accept facts, and one fact is that I am not interested in your stupid pubescent lies, fakes, trolling acts ....
I do not want to repeat all this again and again.
You are looking for the next warning, I know.
But, please, stop doing it in my precense.
Why does the media each of the trillionaires and billionaires call a philantrope?
936) Arminius, 20.10.2016, 02:17, 02:19, 16:00, 16:12, 16:23, 17:09, 18:12, 18:15, 18:23, 18:50, 18:57 (5433-5443)
Only those of the American Natives who survived. 10 millions of the American Natives were killed by US citizens.
Yes, but your 1st group example is also an unrealistic one, because in every group there are always some who live at the cost of the others, and this fact is called the tragedy of the commons (compare my post in your other thread [**|**).
Beer contains less alcohol than wine and cider. So banning beer would makde no sense, if wine and cider were not banned too.
Ban no one of them.
Why did you open this thread in the SGE subforum?
Linguistically said a predicate is what the subject does (in your example: seeing and interpreting), either without or with a connection to an object (in your example: with). Concerning the interpretation of any object, a subject is relatively free. But this does not prove or disprove that the subject dominates the object or that there is an object at all.
The problem of the subject/object dualism is not solvable.
Thank you (**) for the information.
And the gods shall replace the trillionaires and billionaires?
Both the firebomb (**) and the spray (**) because of Trump, or because of the Republicans, or because of both?
Jill Stein is a member of the Green Party, and that party was founded in 1991.
In my country the Greens as a party were founded in the 1970s, and in the 1990s they had already overtaken all other parties in being evil.
So let me tell you that there is no hope at all for the global problems when it comes to such allegedly green parties. It is just the other way around.
Think of Al Gore.
937) Arminius, 22.10.2016, 02:36, 02:38, 02:41, 02:42, 02:43, 02:44, 02:47, 02:47, 02:50, 03:15, 03:26 (5444-5454)
It is all about declaration of war on all Non-moslems.
The gods will not replace the trillionaires, but the trillionaires will become the gods (**)?
Oh, my God!
Seriously, yes, that can become true in some way. I have said something similar about it in another thread.
A country in which anything can happen that's conceivable (**) is very dangerous.
Absolutely right. If randomness could be designed, then it would be no randomness.
Do you need a scapegoat?
Legalize all drugs and ban all mafia.
It is not easy for you to give up smoking. Right?
When I - as a moderate or average smoker - gave up smoking in 2005, I first did not intend to give it up but to just smoke less, and after some weeks I smoked merely a very few cigarettes, then I thought if so, then I can also smoke no cigarettes. The whole process took merely some weeks. It began without the intention of giving it all up, and then it just happened with a little help of my friend: logic.
Yes, that is absoluetly right. There are also a lot of ILP members (as you also know) who depend on the nazi killer argument, because they have no real arguments.
So their motto is: Everyone who disagrees with me is
938) Arminius, 24.10.2016, 02:44, 02:46, 15:21, 15:57, 16:08, 19:36, 21:56, 22:01, 22:07, 22:14, 22:53 (5455-5465)
Yes, thats right. Existence is not observation.
Who will win? What do you estimate? And why?
My assumption was and mostly still is that Trump is made to look silly in order to make Clinton's victory more possible. But that is a risk too. So I am not sure about the election result.
James S. Saint wrote:
Yes. This is what I have always said, especially in the case of theism and its absence, which is atheism, whereas the opposite of theism is antitheism. So atheism is not the opposite of theism.
But you (**) still smoke.
One should never trust the media.
Humans themselves are already media: So they know to lie successfully.
Waechter 418 wrote:
Not 3000 but 6000 years ago, because the urbanization began about 6000 years ago.
The hardware has not changed much, but the software has changed very much.
Do you mean brainwashing when you use the word software?
Yea. Ii is the Occidental-modern version of o distraction from rebellion against the emperor (Caesar).
Observation is something that happens and requires a subject and an object. If a subject observes itself, then it is both the subject and the object. Existence refers to something that is, regardless whether it happens or not, and does not require a subject or an object, because it tells us merely about the fact whether something is or not.
939) Arminius, 26.10.2016, 01:02, 01:05, 01:07, 01:08, 18:34, 19:09, 19:18, 20:12, 20:37, 20:44, 21:10 (5466-5476)
One can also use the follwoing wording: Not everything that exists is observable, but everything that is observable exists.
Most people do not think for the long term but merely for the short term.
It is more probable that the said liar in your example (**) convinces the objective one easier than the subjective one. An objective one wants to know what the subjective one denies - objectivity -, and the liar has to refer to objectivity in order to be successful and is part of objectivity to the other two, the listeners, thus also to the subjective one who denies objectivity.
Yesteryear the emperors already knew who is going to become the new president of the US.
I am not a subjectivist. I can guarantee you (**).
It is just true that it is easier for a liar to conivince an objectivist than a subjetivist. You have to be intelligent enough if you want to resist a lie. Children, for example, can be convinced so easily just because they want to become great objectivists - at least normally. They want to know everything about reality. And if they have a teacher who is a liar, then they believe in his lies - at least normally. A dictatorship, regardless whether it is called a democracy or not, works in the same way.
You have totally misunderstood me and reacted too spontaneously, too impulsively, too presumptuously, too unintelligently.
Yes (**). If he had read only some of our posts and given up his presumptuousness, then he would or at least should have known it.
Both subjectivity and objectivity have to be learned.
First of all I do not have to explain myself.
Nobody comes into life as a subjectivist or an objectivist. In order to become one of the both or no one of the both subjectivity and objectivity must be learned. This process begins in the womb.
What do the words subject and object mean originally? From here you have to begin with your research. The next thing is the development of the human object of your research. Then ask yourself: How does a human being come into life and learn, especially learn the difference between subject and object? Look at the test with the mirror. As a very little child one learns to recognize oneself in a mirror.
So if we want to continue our converastion here, then we have to define the words subject and object, because it is possible that you have other definitions than I have.
In order to know what a subject is, one must at least have a self-concept; and in order to know what an object is, one must be capable of istinguishing between the own self and the rest (which is outside of the own self).
Tactility already exists when the human embryo is 2 months old, taste already exists when the human fetus is 3 months old, smell already exists when the human fetus is 5 months old, hearing already exists when the human fetus is 6 months old, seeing already exists when the human fetus is 9 months old.
The sense of balance needs more time and starts when the human embryo is 2 months old.
But do you think that the embryo or the fetus is capable of distinguishing between the own self and the rest (which is outside of the own self)?
Who should control that? Those who are really ruling and have incest families?
If so (**), then they have achieved progress: from a five-years-plan to a ten-years-plan.
White and male president => black and male president => white and female president => black and female president. This could be the secret rule of the real rulers, if they want more unassailable presidents. If so: who will be the president after Hillary Clinton?
(Oh, I just noticed Hillary Clinton's birthday: 26.10.1947 - happy birthday!)
940) Arminius, 28.10.2016, 00:36, 04:52, 04:57, 15:01, 16:05, 16:17, 16:29, 16:40, 18:12, 18:19, 18:25, 18:52, 19:24, 19:32, 19:42, 19:44, 19:47, 20:05, 20:17, 20:37, 20:44, 21:35, 22:02 (5477-5499)
No. You (**) are wrong and have nothing to contribute to this thread. So, please, look for another thread.
Humans can live without any natural environment, because they can live in an artificial environment which is made by themselves. They can live on their own absolute islands - thus: without any natural environment.
If you live in an artificial environment like the ISS, the natural environment is even deadly for you. An astronaut is immediately dead after leaving the ISS (artificial environment) without any other artificial environment (at least the astronaut suit).
Yes, that's ok (**). How many cigarrettes do you smoke per day?
Welcome to the non-smoking club then (**).
Funny thing - in fact.
You want to smoke and drink again. Right?
Yes, banning beer would be the worst case scenario.
Spätzle, chicken, salad. Drinking: grape juice.
I can imagine.
Do you (**) think that you will overcome the urge of the part of you that wants to smoke and drink?
When I gave up cigarettes (more than eleven years ago) I did not have any urge or demand or desire to smoke or to drink. Perhaps it was just the fact that the time of giving up cigarettes had come; so it was easy to do it.
Do you know what Spätzle is?
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
That is not true.
Or SpaghettILP (**).
Is this thread (**) a further episode of the super-thread What are you doing??
Carleas, do or did you smoke?
Noodles. The best noodles on earth (**).
Spätzle with Zwiebelrostbraten (Zwiebel-rost-braten), roasted / grilled / fried beef and onions in gravy.
Home made Knöpfle type Spätzle.
So, do you now know what Spätzle is?
If you really can stop smoking so easily, why do you not stop smoking?
She (**) is megalomaniac.
It is a difference whether a heterosexual white man, a heterosexaul black man, a homosexual white man, a homosexual black man, a heterosexual white woman, a heterosexual black woman, a homosexual white woman, or a a homosexual black woman wants the war and says this publicly.
Soon it will be possible to carry the zygote, the embryo, and the fetus in an extrauterine way. Then we will have totally arrived at the point of the more insecure, the more primitve reproduction again. We will no longer need any intrauterine thing then.
The natural womb as the realization of the the natural idea to lay the egg into the inside of the body will have become obsolete. There will be no natural birth any longer, since the natural uterus will not be needed any longer. Humans will not be needed any longer - their natural reproduction will be replaced by genetic engineering and artificial wombs, their economical production will be replaced by machines (**|**) and perhaps by artificial humans (cyborgs) .... So humans will either become artificial humans or die out.
Mr. Reasonable wrote:
Is war the way to the quality you are speaking of?
Why I am saying that? Because of posts like the following ones:
Mr. Reasonable wrote:
Mr. Reasonable wrote: